Flippy
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21 years ago
I think is't okay to help... where can i download it?
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Lion
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21 years ago
aha sorry i forgot to explain... any USA/China AI does it on my machine... try it with your default AIs and see if it they have this building bug...
as for downloading i need hosting... with FTP access i could upload versions almost daily, as development is going very very fast (i only spend some 1-2 hours actually editing the AI, the rest was just playing)


UPDATE:
MANAGED TO GET IT TO BUILD MORE AIRFIELDS/ALPHAS...😁
i had yet another 2 Ais vs my AI on a large 6 player map and it wasnt even funny...
it held out no problems until it filled 2 airfields with alphas...
not one single enemy unit managed to leave their bases after that... the alphas completely bombed the enemy... it took out all their derricks and captured the remaining ones...
it had a 3:1 kill:death ratio in its units, it was a complete massacre.
It now builds a lot more defenses where it needs and less where it doenst, uses more alphas more effectively, builds supply centers if it needs resources (it had 4 active ones at the same time on that 2v1) and cheats a lot less as it uses its money much more effectively and gathers more quickly...

if you guys want to try it gimme hosting.. the file is 2 mb unzipped and probably a lot less compressed.
by the by im only working on Hard AIs, as it has a separate set of scripts for each general and i rather do 12 sets than 36, plus no one with a bit of skill should play medium or easy


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Flippy
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21 years ago
Yeah, but can u give it another name cause hards are still a little hard 4 me...
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21 years ago
lol, just build 2 bunkers/patriots/stinger sites
in the path the enemy comes from, keeping a dozer/worker nearby to repair it... its simple as that to win in medium/easy...
if you find hard hard, my AI will be waaaaayyy harder lol
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Flippy
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I don't play twilight flame, and i do beat them... can now get 3 with SW, and with demo 2(a online-accepted general)
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21 years ago


I don't play twilight flame, and i do beat them...

Flippy wrote:


the AI has only 3 attack routes, specified by the mapper on any given map... most of the time he comes form on direction and then closes on to your base so placing defenses there can kill them all...

UPDATE:
My AI just won against 3 allied AIs, and theres still a LOT of room for improvement...
Keep tuned

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Flippy
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Really? Didn't know that... Now I know, so now i'll beat them... So they're not that clever thatthey sneak in a Helix with a Super Lotus and loads of Attack Outposts?
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21 years ago
Lion I'll talk to mic about you, and getting hosting.
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swish
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21 years ago
will you be improving other generals AI to? or are you just going to keep improving General Alexander until she can win a 1 on 6 game in half and hour? (or something)
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21 years ago
Cheers Blbpaws, it would sure be nice to let other see/critique my work 😁. The mod will only ever take 2 MB, maybe 3 if i work on it for a year. Thats uncompressed. so should be too hard to host it...

im working on the Alpha logic and the suicidal run rates are much lower...
funnily enough i had 2 combinations which seem good:
1- tell them to guard combat zone + attack. I get a 3:1 kill/death ratio and all alphas are flying and bombing at all times, including suicidal runs and taking out incoming units
2- tell them to "hunt". they seem to stay flying around in base most of the time but when they attack they seem to do it really well and i got a 6:1 ratio...

im trying to figure out a way to tell them to know when they are out of ammo so they dont try to attack while vulnerable or at least tell them to clear the combat zone before attacking...

the SWG AI is quite hard and im getting tempted to work on china soon. i think ill pick the infantry gen, hell make dozens of hackers and insane amounts of troops. it will also use neutron mines hehe
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swish
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21 years ago
are the superweapon generals rangers smart enough to capture enemy structures, like an enemy barracks or something, instead fo just tech buildings?
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will you be improving other generals AI to? or are you just going to keep improving General Alexander until she can win a 1 on 6 game in half and hour? (or something)

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no i have a plan on what to improve, and as soon as thats done its done, until i plan something new.
when i sort out the following ill be working on other gens:
1-fill firebases
2-fix build bug (IS ANYONE GONNA HELP ME WITH IT?)
3- no suicidal alphas
4-purchasing pathfinder gen ability
5- tweaking attack groups
6-capturing tch buildings fast again (it does it very late now as it builds reactor first)

next gen should be inf gen

about the rangers.. DAMN GOOD IDEA!
it might work actually but dont get hopes up. I think have it thought out. if it works its gonna be the most annoying gen ever.
its already is really bad when i play against it.. it keeps bombing me and using superweapons and tomahawks arrghh
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MicScoTho
21 years ago

want to help me guys?
I NEED TO KNOW IF THE AI DOES THIS ON YOUR MACHINES AS WELL:
start a game with 2+ AIs (china or USA), FFA. then immediately sell your command center and watch the AIs build.

do they send a dozer to the building site and it stays at 0% for a while even though the dozer should be building as it is right next to the building site?
i just need to know as i find it very odd, and i managed by accident to fix that a few times

I checked this and it definitely happened for several USA buildings. I didn't notice anything unusual about China, but I might have missed something.

Lion, I'll contact you about hosting via the email you signed up to the GW forums with.
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21 years ago
thanks a lot MicScoTho, i can now try and work on the bug making the AI build even faster (and get oil derricks sooner as barracks get built faster)

and nice one about hosting :D
you guys should be able to download the first versions soon when it gets hosted.


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Imperial soldier
21 years ago
Cool... Try making the AI even more effective in close quarters battle. I mean, on some maps where in the bases are pretty near each other. 'cuz with an AI such as that, rush tactics will be DEFINITELY USED against it and may be its downfall.
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UPDATE:
made yet some more tweaks to the alpha logic
and played against it. this time i was scared so i added a hard tank general as cannon fodder while i built my base up...
i tried attacking but the alphas were insane my units couldnt leave the base!!!
I made an army of over 150 infantry and they did not make halfway across the map! the vehicles i sent as fodder died too!
giving up all hopes of attacking and seeing that my black lotus got spotted and killed after capturing jsut a few buildings, i went for all out turtling!
my ally was defeated very quickly as well...

I built up massive base defenses, including a bunker line with gats and speaker towers behind. Then something really surprised me: it sent some 12 tomahawks and LOTS of missile defenders with some avengers... i sent my infanty to take the tomahawks out but as they got half a screen away from the base alphas came and bombed them. I couldnt do anything! i sat there watching my defenses crumble to try and hit them when they came in. i manged to finally kill off the attackers. then i went on building nukes, besieged by those damn alphas attacking was not an option.

it was hard to build because the gen powers and ion cannons sliced my income and power, and progaganda center a few times.

i kept on nuking him and building more nukes, but he rebuilt his base so fast!
took me 26 nuclear missiles to finish him off in total...

im now off to make the alphas more protected and add sneaky stealth fighter attacks, along with allowing it to rebuild its command center, and maybe a couple more particle cannons.
Im also playing with making the computer make secondary bases by supply piles!


Keep Tuned!
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Lion
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21 years ago


so it used 5-6 dozer? so in other words, uv made the ultimate cheating comp? great......now all we need is super tank gen.....10 dozer 20 war factory and fire out emperor after emperor!!
but any way, sounds like a challenge...u got me interested too! 😃

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The AI cheats already, but they keep 50k in bank.
mine simply gets that pension earlier and then uses its own devices (builds lots of supply DZs and supply centers).
So it aint an extreme cheater AI, its just a smarter AI. It also has only 3 dozers by late game (it wont rebuild them if its more than 3)

by the by im about to try something impressive.
if it works the AI will be like 2x harder..

keep tuned
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21 years ago
Lion I'll talk to you about working on All-Stars via e-mail.
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21 years ago
Yep, as suspected it does work!
My AI can now build a lot of stuff near supply piles (including SWs etc)
just had a match where it built 9 pcus!

cant get the buggers to get in the firebases though 😞
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swish
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21 years ago
keep working at it. you'll get it. have you figured out how to get it to purchase pathfinders with his generals points?
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