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Lion
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Colonel Topic Starter

21 years ago

nope, no firebases and no pathfinders.. im starting to think this is to do with the INI files, as well as counters (timers). I need some counters so it builds its base better..
im still working at the auroras/pcus and a little bug where it builds a powerplant right in front of its own defenses, which gets destroyed very easily.

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MicScoTho
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Administrator

21 years ago

#22

http://www.cncgeneralsworld.com/page.asp?page=zerohour:advancedaimod

Head there to try out beta version 0.1!

swish
92% (Exalted)
Major

21 years ago

#23

a powerplant right in front of defenses? thats dumb. and have you tried allying yourself with Super Alexander? it would be interesting.

I used to go the beach and build sand castles out of cement and watch as kids come and try to kick them over.

Lion
100% (Exalted)
Colonel Topic Starter

21 years ago

#24

Its boring swish, it does all the butt kicking for me :D
get it now and see if you like it!

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Get the latest version here:
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Lion
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Colonel Topic Starter

21 years ago

#25

last update for today:
i seen my AI play against a demo gen and his rebels captured one of the PCUs, so it might be well possible to do it.
i am very close to figuring out firebases also. i got units to stand outside of it and sometimes a soldier or two went in.

post your comments on it people, its available now

Creator of the ZH Advanced AI MOD.
Get the latest version here:
http://www.cncgeneralsworld.com/page.asp?page=zerohour:advancedaimod

EoNwe
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Captain

21 years ago

#26

I set it up in a 1vs1 game against a hard nuke gen on tournament lake and found some interesting things.

1. It Had major trouble with the "dozer sits at 0% bug." The supply depo for example didn't build for quite a while so it kept making more dozers to go stand by it. (I restarted it again)

2. It built plenty of particle cannons but still aimed them so it hit a maximum of one unit or one corner of target building. Better SW accuracy would be cool.

3. SUPER UBER L33T RIDICULOUS MISSLE DEFENDERS OF DOOM! 😮 I witnessed some very scary rocket men... They had longer range then S&D tomahawks, and were in permanent laser lock mode. As in they were fully automatic, vulcan cannon style vs everything-- buildings, infantry, everything.

I was impressed by its use of tomahawks and commanches though, along with base defenses. The Auroras blew up its own air field five times though... Of course, i've seen players do that too. I assume they were on guard.

Those rocket men scared me out of playing it myself though (You have to see them to believe them...OMG).

"Commity: A group of people who individually can do nothing, but together decide that nothing can be done."

MicScoTho
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21 years ago

#27

Sounds like a should have taken a screenshot =)

Hey, actually... thats a pretty good idea...

EoNwe
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21 years ago

#28

I'll get a screeny if it happens again. 👍

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EoNwe
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Captain

21 years ago

#29

Ok I got a screen shot of these guys, but it wouldn't upload for me...
Someone tell me how, and what restrictions are on size and format.
Its a 92 kb JPEG.

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Lion
100% (Exalted)
Colonel Topic Starter

21 years ago

#30

I set it up in a 1vs1 game against a hard nuke gen on tournament lake and found some interesting things.

1. It Had major trouble with the "dozer sits at 0% bug." The supply depo for example didn't build for quite a while so it kept making more dozers to go stand by it. (I restarted it again)

2. It built plenty of particle cannons but still aimed them so it hit a maximum of one unit or one corner of target building. Better SW accuracy would be cool.

3. SUPER UBER L33T RIDICULOUS MISSLE DEFENDERS OF DOOM! 😮 I witnessed some very scary rocket men... They had longer range then S&D tomahawks, and were in permanent laser lock mode. As in they were fully automatic, vulcan cannon style vs everything-- buildings, infantry, everything.

Those rocket men scared me out of playing it myself though (You have to see them to believe them...OMG).

EoNwe wrote:

1- Yes im working on the 0% bug. It seems to happen to all USA armies. The extra dozers are for later game base building, where it builds a lot of things at same time.

2- it builds now MORE particle cannons. as for aiming i agree, its pretty dumb but i cant find where to set the priorities for targetting (it builds a lot more in v0.2 thats coming out in a few days.

3-hmmm lol they have very long range because of S&D.. they fire very fast because of avengers id imagine. ill play as us now and see if i can do it as well! (just imagine them doing it inside humvees!! mobile platform of doom!)
I by no means hacked units so should be working normally but i found also another bug. sometimes (1% of time maybe) an alpha will drop 2 bombs! one on the way and another on its intended target! im working to fix it though hehe

try playing it yourself the rocket men can be handled not too hardly with infantry/artillery.. what scares me are the alphas on large maps. my units cant leave their base without getting bombed half a screen away. i tried sending 42 tanks and they all died :(

😁

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Creator of the ZH Advanced AI MOD.
Get the latest version here:
http://www.cncgeneralsworld.com/page.asp?page=zerohour:advancedaimod

swish
92% (Exalted)
Major

21 years ago

#31

spread out the tanks but not to far. that way if it drops a bomb, the other anti-air tanks can take it down on its return trip when it is still in range. i tried it against her in gen challenge as inf general. i spread out my gattling guns. she bombs one. the other 2 kill the aurora when it turns around and starts heading back to base. before long she says: "you are pushing me over budget, general." in a annoyed manner. meaning she is spending more money on alphas then she is gaining. and gattling cannons build faster and ar cheaper. therefore i can do it again, and again.

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I used to go the beach and build sand castles out of cement and watch as kids come and try to kick them over.

Lion
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Colonel Topic Starter

21 years ago

#32

screenie of v0.2!
AI in a 2v1 match, its 1v1 now as it killed off the other opponent and is finishing off the tank gen:

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Notice that it took control over the map, took all tech buildings and built secondary bases with PCUs around them. the tech buildings were still standing because nothing of the enemy managed to get a screen away from their base without getting bombed.
It built about 10 dropzones, had 7 oil derricks and built supply centers over 6 supply piles. thats why it has so much cash. both warfactories and barracks were pumping out units nonstop.

Gats/quads in large numbers will cause some serious damage to the alphas. but this is a mod to improve the AI not to make it perfect. it will never be smart but it will play better

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Creator of the ZH Advanced AI MOD.
Get the latest version here:
http://www.cncgeneralsworld.com/page.asp?page=zerohour:advancedaimod

Lion
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Colonel Topic Starter

21 years ago

#33

swish wrote:

another thing i forgot to add:
it only works for skirmish lol! General challenges have their own separate AI

Creator of the ZH Advanced AI MOD.
Get the latest version here:
http://www.cncgeneralsworld.com/page.asp?page=zerohour:advancedaimod

MicScoTho
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21 years ago

#34

Ok I got a screen shot of these guys, but it wouldn't upload for me...
Someone tell me how, and what restrictions are on size and format.
Its a 92 kb JPEG.

EoNwe wrote:

You should be able to get it to upload by pressing "Insert a File" on the Reply to Topic page. Why won't it let you upload? Are you getting an error message? Note that it could take a minute or two, depending on the file size, to upload a file.

swish
92% (Exalted)
Major

21 years ago

#35

7 oil derricks?!?! on that map, which i believe is Twilight Flame, there are only 4 oil derricks.

on your screenshot it said units lost 193. how could it lose 193 units of no enemy units "could get a screen away without getting bombed"?

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Lion
100% (Exalted)
Colonel Topic Starter

21 years ago

#36

lol, go and count them... there are 4 groups of 2 derricks, one got destroyed, leaving 7. I played that map over 100 times id know it.
look at the screenie. the derricks are situated near each corner of the dark area of the radar. two in each corner. if you look hard enough you can see the dots that represent them

it lost 193 because:
a) it builds auroras in late game so it got attacked before.
b) enemy uses generals powers/planes on my swg's base
c) some of its auroras get shot down (suicide bug remember??)
d) IT ATTACKS THEREFORE IT LOSES UNITS

gosh! really, what are you trying to achieve by trying to prove me wrong? If i was gonna lie i wouldnt publish the mod so id get proved wrong mate...
go and play with it, and try attacking by late game... unless you sneak around the center, anything you send will get bombed by alphas pretty quick, provided the AI has alphas, it will use them... v0.2 has even better alpha logic

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Creator of the ZH Advanced AI MOD.
Get the latest version here:
http://www.cncgeneralsworld.com/page.asp?page=zerohour:advancedaimod

swish
92% (Exalted)
Major

21 years ago

#37

your right.😊 sorry. i was thinking that 4 derricks were 2. one on each side. you were right all along. maybe i should just shut up.

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I used to go the beach and build sand castles out of cement and watch as kids come and try to kick them over.

Lion
100% (Exalted)
Colonel Topic Starter

21 years ago

#38

your right.😊 sorry. i was thinking that 4 derricks were 2. one on each side. you were right all along. maybe i should just shut up.

swish wrote:

hehe 😁 its ok, dont shut up, just do constructive critique instead so i can make my AI better

UPDATE:
v0.2 is almost done, from then on il start work on other generals, one at time. SWG will still be updated but not as quickly.
Here are some improvements

improvements over v0.1:
-SUICIDE BUG FIXED! (it wont attack your base with alphas as much though)
-The AI expands A LOT MORE. given time it will take over all supply piles in the map.
-the AI wont give up capturing tech buildings as easily.
-the AI will build secondary bases by supply piles, with defenses, PCUs, dropzones and power plants (9 pcus in total on that screenie)
-Tweaked attack groups as to make them more effective (lots of work to be done still though)
-the AI is now better with power management. it shouldnt run out of power when building up base (unless in very rare occasions)

Creator of the ZH Advanced AI MOD.
Get the latest version here:
http://www.cncgeneralsworld.com/page.asp?page=zerohour:advancedaimod

EoNwe
56.75% (Neutral)
Captain

21 years ago

#39

Rocket men do have long range with S&D, but i dont think thye can outrange artillery.

There were no avengers targeting for them.

I still cant upload the pic, in any format; Oh well.

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Blbpaws
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Administrator

21 years ago

#40

very nice work Lion

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