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Poll Question : Worst General
Choice Votes Statistics
  Tank
22
16 %
  Infantry
23
17 %
  Nuke
4
3 %
  Airforce
6
4 %
  SuperWeps
14
10 %
  Laser
24
18 %
  Stealth
21
15 %
  Toxin
8
6 %
  Demo
11
8 %
  Total 133 100%
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Offline incia  
#81 Posted : Monday, March 5, 2007 1:13:25 PM(UTC)
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timewarp wrote:

The laser general requires completely different strategies than other generals. You cannot rush with the laser general. It's all about turtling, and this really is the only general you can do that with.


Except SW General.
Offline timewarp  
#82 Posted : Monday, March 5, 2007 1:27:38 PM(UTC)
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Incia wrote:

timewarp wrote:

The laser general requires completely different strategies than other generals. You cannot rush with the laser general. It's all about turtling, and this really is the only general you can do that with.


Except SW General.

What do you mean?
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Offline incia  
#83 Posted : Monday, March 5, 2007 1:46:08 PM(UTC)
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timewarp wrote:

Incia wrote:

timewarp wrote:

The laser general requires completely different strategies than other generals. You cannot rush with the laser general. It's all about turtling, and this really is the only general you can do that with.


Except SW General.

What do you mean?


I mean SW General is the ultimate turtling general.
Offline timewarp  
#84 Posted : Monday, March 5, 2007 2:07:37 PM(UTC)
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Incia wrote:

timewarp wrote:

Incia wrote:

timewarp wrote:

The laser general requires completely different strategies than other generals. You cannot rush with the laser general. It's all about turtling, and this really is the only general you can do that with.


Except SW General.

What do you mean?


I mean SW General is the ultimate turtling general.

Not against infantry general. EMP turrets are really ineffective against infantry. And if the other player is smart, they would know that USA can't get ranger without first killing some enemy troops. So an infantry rush against EMP gen would work.
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Offline incia  
#85 Posted : Monday, March 5, 2007 2:51:42 PM(UTC)
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Ranger? they are USA's first normal infantries, everyone can buy Rangers from the first start.

And some Flashbangs or Humvee's full of Rangers would work.
But yeah... Infantry General is the best general versus SW General.

But every other general are good versus the lame Laser General.
Offline timewarp  
#86 Posted : Monday, March 5, 2007 3:44:27 PM(UTC)
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Incia wrote:

Ranger? they are USA's first normal infantries, everyone can buy Rangers from the first start.

And some Flashbangs or Humvee's full of Rangers would work.
But yeah... Infantry General is the best general versus SW General.

But every other general are good versus the lame Laser General.

You have that backwards. Lasers are powerful against everything. They do higher damage than shells or missiles, they cannot be shot down, or stopped by PDLs, they are instant, and they often finish their salvo by shooting at a much greater distance than what should be their maximum. They are powerful against infantry, vehicles, and aircraft, and the only thing that can safely hit them are china's artillery, or the rocket buggy, (and of course an Aurora, but those can safely hit anything) which can easily be destroyed by just about any unit behind the turret. They can shoot down SCUDs, and tomahawks. The laser turret is basically amazing.
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Offline Jetril  
#87 Posted : Tuesday, March 6, 2007 1:00:19 AM(UTC)
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timewarp wrote:

Incia wrote:

Ranger? they are USA's first normal infantries, everyone can buy Rangers from the first start.

And some Flashbangs or Humvee's full of Rangers would work.
But yeah... Infantry General is the best general versus SW General.

But every other general are good versus the lame Laser General.

You have that backwards. Lasers are powerful against everything. They do higher damage than shells or missiles, they cannot be shot down, or stopped by PDLs, they are instant, and they often finish their salvo by shooting at a much greater distance than what should be their maximum. They are powerful against infantry, vehicles, and aircraft, and the only thing that can safely hit them are china's artillery, or the rocket buggy, (and of course an Aurora, but those can safely hit anything) which can easily be destroyed by just about any unit behind the turret. They can shoot down SCUDs, and tomahawks. The laser turret is basically amazing.


Which of those benefits effect the Laser Crusader?
Offline incia  
#88 Posted : Tuesday, March 6, 2007 5:00:58 AM(UTC)
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Lasers are actually bad versus infantry, so one Rebel Ambush or something could be enough to destroy your Power plants. Then all your Laser Crusaders and Laser turrets become useless.
Or if you get rushed by hundreds of Minigunners from the Infantry General, then Laser General can't do anything.
Offline timewarp  
#89 Posted : Tuesday, March 6, 2007 9:26:25 AM(UTC)
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Incia wrote:

Lasers are actually bad versus infantry, so one Rebel Ambush or something could be enough to destroy your Power plants. Then all your Laser Crusaders and Laser turrets become useless.
Or if you get rushed by hundreds of Minigunners from the Infantry General, then Laser General can't do anything.

Only the lasers on laser crusaders. Laser turrets are very potent against infantry.
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Offline outlaw2747  
#90 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2007 3:45:11 PM(UTC)
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I wouldn't say the laser general is the worst. A good rush can murder anyone but late in the game those laser turrets become quite nasty if set up right. Against minugunners, if you have them supplemented by pathfinders...well there goes the neighborhood.
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Offline Pokey86  
#91 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2007 10:41:51 PM(UTC)
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Tank Gen is the worst, no long range makes him practically useless late game, & i do mean useless, he also has way to many weaknesses & doesn't bost the economy & early game advantage of the nuke or infantry gen counterparts
My opinion is likely to change as I improve

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Offline Twii Light  
#92 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2007 10:56:51 PM(UTC)
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^ Truth.
Offline Darus  
#93 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 8:47:38 PM(UTC)
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no, i think laser gen is the weakest.
laser crusaders are pathetic
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Offline incia  
#94 Posted : Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:26:58 AM(UTC)
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Darus wrote:

no, i think laser gen is the weakest.
laser crusaders are pathetic


Finally someone who thinks like I do, thank you.
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