MajorJoined: 12/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 118 Location: South Africa
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It's not just me. Most of my friends (lanning friends) also agree that Scrin appears to be the most useless team in the game. They dont have one unit worth purchasing, besides the overly expensive and weak Tri-Pod, and the Planetary Assault carrier is useless, costing huge ammounts and their attack ships can be shot down by one AA before they have a chance to even scratch a unit, and a few AA tanks/turrets can reduce them to dust in no time. There other units are pretty much scrap metal if you go head-on with GDI. Overall it seems the GDI is the only team worth playing, though the NOD had some pretty good stuff, especialy going against the Scrin. When I play a very good player at a LAN, we usualy make him go as Scrin, it acts as a handicap (Instead of the degrading handicap feature). Im surprised at how many of you say the Scrin can probably beat the GDI? Seems unlikely to me, without a unit even as strong as the pitbull. Also graphicaly wise the Scrin are annoying as hell, all their thousands of special effects make it confusing and all the units look so alike its difficult to multi-manage. Oh, and the mothership isn't worth even considering to purchase. Mine was shot down by 4 rocket troopers before I even had a chance to attack them. Im surprised how many of you here say how awesome the Scrin are, there must be some evil catch to them. So far, I haven't discovered one reason yet to play as Scrin. Opinions please. EDIT: I usualy beat AI when playing verse Scrid, and never Vica Versa. Edited by user Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:03:08 AM(UTC)
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AdministratorJoined: 4/1/2002(UTC) Posts: 2,089 Location: USA
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You guys must just not use them correctly. Scrin are the most powerful. If you use their Devastators correctly, they can't even be hit by stationary AA. |
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Commander in ChiefJoined: 5/17/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,602 Location: Sweden
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It's just you I think.
Scrin is the best army. Period. GDI and Nod suck.
Even the balancing patches usually only nerf Scrin because it's overpowered.
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ColonelJoined: 12/16/2006(UTC) Posts: 577 Location: United Kingdom
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I hate the fact that all the scrin buildings look the same at a glance. The affects for the damaging of scrin structures are confusing 2. The AI always manage to use the scrin well but I can never play well as the scrin.
p.s. how dose the handicap work? |
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MajorJoined: 11/29/2006(UTC) Posts: 191 Location: Norway
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Its not just you, as Incia said himself, all the top players use NOD..... Its a reason why..... A few top players also use GDI but almost noone use scrin... overall they just dont have good enough units, especially early game...
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MajorJoined: 12/11/2006(UTC) Posts: 118 Location: South Africa
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I think the truth is that neither member of my lan friends are very good at C&C3. Hence I want to learn to perfect my Scrin skills.
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Commander in ChiefJoined: 5/17/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,602 Location: Sweden
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ThunderBolt wrote: I think the truth is that neither member of my lan friends are very good at C&C3. Hence I want to learn to perfect my Scrin skills.
Watch my replays, you can first practis versus Hard AI... then try them online.
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AdministratorJoined: 8/3/2003(UTC) Posts: 3,086  Thanks: 445 times Was thanked: 186 time(s) in 130 post(s)
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Stormriders are a godsend, with a weapon that does decent damage to everything except infantry and surprisingly tough armor. I think they're the most overlooked air unit in the game.
As to the original post, I think the problem with the Scrin is that they don't have any spammable units like the Mammoth or Scorpion Tanks. Properly mixing units is the key to success, such as using Tripods to cover your fleet against mobile ground-based AA. |
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AdministratorJoined: 1/1/2003(UTC) Posts: 6,526 Location: USA
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I like the Scrin's army the most (indeed, I'm usually them when I play online), but I think Stormriders are stopped too easily by emplaced enti-aircraft. The reason is this. Against an AA gun or Plasma Battery, the AA's range usually keeps the Stormrider in range at all times, so while the Stormrider is swooping, lots of damage is being dealt, which means that unless there's a large pack of Stormriders, the AA will knock out the fleet before too much damage can be done. Against mobile AA, with the exception of the missile based Pitbulls the Stormrider usually gets out of range during these swoops, making it much more effective. |
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Commander in ChiefJoined: 5/17/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,602 Location: Sweden
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Scrin sucks when it comes to refunding huge structures. They get less than 50 % cash back when they refund their Drone Platform plus they don't aquire any Assimilators either.
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MajorJoined: 11/29/2006(UTC) Posts: 191 Location: Norway
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Incia wrote: It's just you I think.
Scrin is the best army. Period. GDI and Nod suck.
Even the balancing patches usually only nerf Scrin because it's overpowered.
If so, why do almost every good player use NoD??
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Commander in ChiefJoined: 5/17/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,602 Location: Sweden
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AluXes wrote:Incia wrote: It's just you I think.
Scrin is the best army. Period. GDI and Nod suck.
Even the balancing patches usually only nerf Scrin because it's overpowered.
If so, why do almost every good player use NoD?? Do I have to say this in every frigging topic? Scorpion SPAM! You need no skill in using that, so you can skip the "good player" part. I once tested it for fun and won easily a Brutal AI. Boring.
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MajorJoined: 11/29/2006(UTC) Posts: 191 Location: Norway
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Scorpion spam, and so what??
You can spam every unit if you want to, the reason why people spam scorpions instead of devourers or predators is that you get more compared to the money you spend, ergo NOD`s units are better than scrins, per $ spent...
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GeneralJoined: 4/25/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,822 Location: Netherlands
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NOD´s units aren´t better all, simply ONE NOD unit is better acording to these last two posts, there is nothing to indicate that any unit but the Scorpion is better then the units that the scrin have, per $ spent. So it is unlogical to just assume like that that all of NOD´s units are better than the Scrin´s when you look at the per $ spent. if you dont go into further detail then you wont convince people this way.  You also can´t just spam every kind of unit and hope to wim, spamming most infantry or anti air vehicles would most likely result in a loss, especially against a scorpion spam. |
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MajorJoined: 11/29/2006(UTC) Posts: 191 Location: Norway
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I dont mean that every NoD unit is better than scrins units, but scrin has nothing as effective as the scorpions.....
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MajorJoined: 2/1/2007(UTC) Posts: 111 Location: USA
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scrin is the best army period like incia said. :) |
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GeneralJoined: 4/25/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,822 Location: Netherlands
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early game the scrin might indeed be a little bit less effective, though their storm riders could fight against a scorpion rush and those scorpions can't shoot back. in late game the tripod with a shield upgrade would no doubt be more effective though. emp effect if enemy units come to close and it's three beam weapons make short work of most scorpions. |
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MajorJoined: 11/29/2006(UTC) Posts: 191 Location: Norway
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Firion Corodix wrote: early game the scrin might indeed be a little bit less effective, though their storm riders could fight against a scorpion rush and those scorpions can't shoot back. in late game the tripod with a shield upgrade would no doubt be more effective though. emp effect if enemy units come to close and it's three beam weapons make short work of most scorpions.
Nothing stops the scorpions, period If you attack at the right times and mix with buggies when needed there will be no way out for scrin... its a reason why people use noed and not scrin..
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Commander in ChiefJoined: 5/17/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,602 Location: Sweden
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AluXes wrote:Firion Corodix wrote: early game the scrin might indeed be a little bit less effective, though their storm riders could fight against a scorpion rush and those scorpions can't shoot back. in late game the tripod with a shield upgrade would no doubt be more effective though. emp effect if enemy units come to close and it's three beam weapons make short work of most scorpions.
Nothing stops the scorpions, period If you attack at the right times and mix with buggies when needed there will be no way out for scrin... its a reason why people use noed and not scrin.. GL HF after the patch.
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MajorJoined: 11/29/2006(UTC) Posts: 191 Location: Norway
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I play scrin, even though i KNOW its the worst team... I got bored just using scorps after a few days.... But i see no reason to not use NOD as it is the best team!
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