I hear frequently that USA dominates late game. Is that really true, though? The USA doesn't really have any all-powerful game-ending unit combos. I moreso thought China would be the late game dominator due to Overlords and ECMs. The Overlord's only weapon-based weakness are missiles. And ECMs effectively neutralize that threat if you have enough. Not to mention China's Hackers bring in the most income late game, as we had discussed in a previous topic. I can't really see GLA being the late game dominator, although Busses with RPG Troopers are powerful. So, I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on who dominates late game. I'd give mine, but I'm torn between USA and China.

i would say the USA super weapon general or any long range ballistics general would be haveing the uphevel over the opponets. basically the usa syper weapon general has an alternate and unlimited amount of resources thus giving it the opportunity to build more units at a faster pace. that does not mean the infantry general cannot destroy your stuff before it even leaves the base.

i dont know what base factions are. but atleast if you are playing as the USA you can build an unlimited amount of supply depots. the gla have black markets but they dont produce revenue. and the chinese has hackers but you can only put a certain number of them in the internet facility. but if you have like 9 bulldozers and they all complete building a supply depot at the same time then all those supplys come in at the same time. and if you playing against five people you can replace lost units alot faster than you can with any other force. you sit there and be bombarded waiting for additional funds. and still not be able to make a strong attack.

Black Markets generates an income of $20 every second so they do generate a revenue and can be massed, they are stronger than the Supply Depots and thus harder to destroy. Furthermore, GLA factions has the "Cash Bounty" generals ability, creating large income if you continue to kill enemy units. For China, Hackers can be deployed outside the Internet Center and thus also means they can be massed to produce a large continual income no different from Supply Drops. At heroic level, Hackers actually produce more income than the Supply Drop for the same cost.

And how does what you said just now proves that GLA and China doesn't have the capability to generate income as much as the US?



Just because you can't keep your own base in check doesn't mean you can automatically assume others won't be able to as well. Not to mention each player has their own playing style and strategy so some players playing as the GLA can put up a much stronger defense then US and China players.



And I garantee you I did that before and did not have a problem with accidently selecting them. Again, don't assume your own flaws are also present on other people. If you do have enough hackers that such mistakes are unavoidable, then you should've won the game by now due to the huge amount of income they would be generating.



And as I said before, don't assume your own flaws to be present with other people. Different players have different strategies and playing style and would be capable of pulling off such an attack with such factions. Some players might not even survive a game playing as US Super Weapons against the Medium Skirmish AI.

Edited by user Monday, August 11, 2008 5:07:38 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I did that once with on my side Inaftry and two Tank generals against all 3 Gla an and 2 Nukes.

Satisfied?

And just as a note, I'm no pro-player and there are many people who can do this challenge with other generals. It just so happens I favor the USAF General. Also, what does this have to do with how much money each faction can make?

Now do me a favor, stop assuming your own personal flaws applies to everyone and stop changing subjects when you're about to lose a debate.

yea there is definetly something wrong here because there are no units attacking your team mates and you dont have a defensive stronghold wich means all that money your spenind on particle cannons is not going to defensive measures because when i play they always try and storm the place. so if what you are saying is true. then there has got to be something wrong something you have changed to the game play. i know i could get stomped on in network play. never tried though. however. i have played the computer alot and never have they just remained idle and not launched a major offensive against my base or my teamates stronghold.

plus the gla usually focus on those mobile triple aaa units instead just a barrage of tanks.

Edited by user Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:32:52 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

The only mods installed was a model change for the Comanche and Raptor missiles, and a replacement icon for the Raptor, and I doubt they would cause any significant changes gameplay wise.

That Purple GLA had a bug and I didn't notice it untill I used the Intellegence Ability, saw that blob on the minimap and took that screenshot. The bug happens rarely but in this case, I hit one, and since I already defeated one of the GLA AIs, I was too lazy to restart the game.

The Strat Center can be seen as being built in the second picture in the previous post, so you can shut up about that one. And if you still ain't satisfied about me building a strat center, you can see it again in the pics below:



And who said they didn't attack? See the minimap. The pink US team actually almost got ran over in one case but the red attack was pushed back. And if you expect me to take a screenshot of every single event in that game, you are definately crazy.


Just accept the fact that three people had already beaten your "impossible" challenge, straight according to your rules.

Edited by moderator Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:33:55 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Flaming

There you go again. Just because you don't send units to support your teammates, don't assume I won't as well. The two Patriots I built there got destroyed later and I had to send the four Combat Chinooks I had with Pathfinders and Missile Defenders to repel the attacking units. And don't forget, the AI also builds their own defenses, those Patriot batteries were second line behind two Laser Turrets and thus were able to hold out. Of many occasions, especially when the Chinese AIs started coming with Nuke Cannons, I had to intercept them with King Raptors.

Also, don't assume I would use the same build order as you and thus don't assume the strategy center build as equivilent "Point X" in your own game. I had the Strategy Center built and started building a particle cannon before the GLA AI even managed to get their Palace up!

And that massive group of fighters? Normal US attack + Drones for each vehicle. Half of those dots are just Hellfire drones.

And you're free to ask other forum members here and see their opinion on this debate, they know me better than you do.

And as I said before, don't assume things. Such as in this case, the more assumptions you come up with the more it makes you look like an idiot who doesn't know the game.