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Posted by: king - Tuesday, April 11, 2017 12:18:57 PM
I play ZH 1.04 and against 1-5 AI players no problem and no crashing but against 6 or 7 AI the game crashes at 5 min or later? My rig is perfect. And I have heard a lot about max 3k units and that is not true, in my XP days some battles were more than 3k units and the battles were immense and long, I miss that. I have removed the faulty win 7 update ending with 255, and that did not help either. There must be something in the coding that crashes the game. I know the game has and is very unstable but I have a long time ago when win 7 came out played ZH perfect. I play with around 40-80 fps even when the game crashes.....HELP.....anyone... Thx. in advance

Posted by: king - Tuesday, April 11, 2017 12:18:57 PM

I play ZH 1.04 and against 1-5 AI players no problem and no crashing but against 6 or 7 AI the game crashes at 5 min or later? My rig is perfect. And I have heard a lot about max 3k units and that is not true, in my XP days some battles were more than 3k units and the battles were immense and long, I miss that. I have removed the faulty win 7 update ending with 255, and that did not help either. There must be something in the coding that crashes the game. I know the game has and is very unstable but I have a long time ago when win 7 came out played ZH perfect. I play with around 40-80 fps even when the game crashes.....HELP.....anyone... Thx. in advance

Posted by: mr_hymn_ - Tuesday, April 11, 2017 12:38:20 PM
Well then search the ReleaseCrashInfo.txt this will contain the information why your game is crash. However if this file provided none info mean your computer may unable to handle the game. But somehow changing the camera height will save your day. My game play also have over 3k units and sometimes my game crash because of too many units and game is laggy as a sign but sometimes no lag but game freeze. So lately I am fixing this problem by scrolling your camera closer the object to reduce the huge render to avoid crash.

Posted by: mr_hymn_ - Tuesday, April 11, 2017 12:38:20 PM

Well then search the ReleaseCrashInfo.txt this will contain the information why your game is crash. However if this file provided none info mean your computer may unable to handle the game. But somehow changing the camera height will save your day. My game play also have over 3k units and sometimes my game crash because of too many units and game is laggy as a sign but sometimes no lag but game freeze. So lately I am fixing this problem by scrolling your camera closer the object to reduce the huge render to avoid crash.

Posted by: Zatsupachi - Tuesday, April 11, 2017 3:16:34 PM
I don't think it's the problem of the rig, rather it's the game engine. Check ReleaseCrashInfo.txt on your C&C General Zero Hour documents folder. If it doesn't provide the error within the first few lines, then it's the game engine crapping out on you. One possible factor is, what maps are you playing on? Another cause for it is that sometimes the engine does a derp and will fail to construct a unit(eg. War Factory opening but no unit is coming out), which will cause in a crash.

Posted by: Zatsupachi - Tuesday, April 11, 2017 3:16:34 PM

I don't think it's the problem of the rig, rather it's the game engine. Check ReleaseCrashInfo.txt on your C&C General Zero Hour documents folder. If it doesn't provide the error within the first few lines, then it's the game engine crapping out on you. One possible factor is, what maps are you playing on? Another cause for it is that sometimes the engine does a derp and will fail to construct a unit(eg. War Factory opening but no unit is coming out), which will cause in a crash.

Posted by: mr_hymn_ - Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:29:08 PM
[quote=Zatsupachi;144172]I don't think it's the problem of the rig, rather it's the game engine. Check ReleaseCrashInfo.txt on your C&C General Zero Hour documents folder. If it doesn't provide the error within the first few lines, then it's the game engine crapping out on you. One possible factor is, what maps are you playing on? Another cause for it is that sometimes the engine does a derp and will fail to construct a unit(eg. War Factory opening but no unit is coming out), which will cause in a crash.[/quote] Agreed. Sometimes my game crash just from constructing a vehicle dozer.

Posted by: mr_hymn_ - Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:29:08 PM

[quote=Zatsupachi;144172]I don't think it's the problem of the rig, rather it's the game engine. Check ReleaseCrashInfo.txt on your C&C General Zero Hour documents folder. If it doesn't provide the error within the first few lines, then it's the game engine crapping out on you. One possible factor is, what maps are you playing on? Another cause for it is that sometimes the engine does a derp and will fail to construct a unit(eg. War Factory opening but no unit is coming out), which will cause in a crash.[/quote] Agreed. Sometimes my game crash just from constructing a vehicle dozer.

Posted by: king - Wednesday, April 12, 2017 5:56:46 AM
Tried to set cam to max 1000 height, still crash. With 5,6 or 7 ai but not with 1,2,3 or 4 ai. Units are not moving either when its close to a game crash. I just played against 4 ai and the unit count was huge more than against 7 ai. When the game crashes against 5 or more ai there was fewer units on screen than against 4 ai? That is very odd. Thx.

Posted by: mr_hymn_ - Wednesday, April 12, 2017 5:59:29 AM
[quote=king;144188]Tried to set cam to max 1000 height, still crash. With 5,6 or 7 ai but not with 1,2,3 or 4 ai. Units are not moving either when its close to a game crash. I just played against 4 ai and the unit count was huge more than against 7 ai. When the game crashes against 5 or more ai there was fewer units on screen than against 4 ai? That is very odd. Thx.[/quote] Camera at 1000 height is what more likely makes your game to crash. My game is crash by that too. Default is about 300-320. I am also set the camera to 1000 and crash sometimes but that won't change my mind from reducing the camera height but when game is laggy I will move the camera closer to the map to help the game run smoother. Obviously 32 GB of ram is not enough for the insanity.

Posted by: mr_hymn_ - Wednesday, April 12, 2017 5:59:29 AM

[quote=king;144188]Tried to set cam to max 1000 height, still crash. With 5,6 or 7 ai but not with 1,2,3 or 4 ai. Units are not moving either when its close to a game crash. I just played against 4 ai and the unit count was huge more than against 7 ai. When the game crashes against 5 or more ai there was fewer units on screen than against 4 ai? That is very odd. Thx.[/quote] Camera at 1000 height is what more likely makes your game to crash. My game is crash by that too. Default is about 300-320. I am also set the camera to 1000 and crash sometimes but that won't change my mind from reducing the camera height but when game is laggy I will move the camera closer to the map to help the game run smoother. Obviously 32 GB of ram is not enough for the insanity.

Posted by: mr_hymn_ - Wednesday, April 12, 2017 6:02:36 AM
For some reason. By default game will never crash even vs 7 AI unless you mod the game to multiply the production like I do. Everything you built will get 20 more. So 20 scorpion in 1 batch sounds awesome? Let's nuke all of them all at once and you will see why the game is crashes.

Posted by: CommieDog - Wednesday, April 12, 2017 10:45:20 AM
Don't forget that Generals is a 32-bit application, and as such can only handle a limited amount of memory by modern standards (I think it's 2GB).

Posted by: king - Wednesday, April 12, 2017 10:57:44 AM
Is that GPU memory or what? Help commiedog. You have been by my side for so many years that I wanted to thank you for all your help through the years...Let me at least thank you 1000 times for your patience and help. Thx.

Posted by: mr_hymn_ - Wednesday, April 12, 2017 11:30:56 AM
[quote=king;144199]Is that GPU memory or what? Help commiedog. You have been by my side for so many years that I wanted to thank you for all your help through the years...Let me at least thank you 1000 times for your patience and help. Thx.[/quote] Have you try the lowest resolution yet? As far as I know the General has been remake for 64 bit application too. (Existed for Mac's users) Crashes can be determined by many things. Did your game crash mean your computer is freezing and you need to restart or just app is become unresponding and simply crashes? Did the technical difficulties popup? I need more infos and btw if possible let us know your computer specs too.

Posted by: mr_hymn_ - Wednesday, April 12, 2017 11:30:56 AM

[quote=king;144199]Is that GPU memory or what? Help commiedog. You have been by my side for so many years that I wanted to thank you for all your help through the years...Let me at least thank you 1000 times for your patience and help. Thx.[/quote] Have you try the lowest resolution yet? As far as I know the General has been remake for 64 bit application too. (Existed for Mac's users) Crashes can be determined by many things. Did your game crash mean your computer is freezing and you need to restart or just app is become unresponding and simply crashes? Did the technical difficulties popup? I need more infos and btw if possible let us know your computer specs too.

Posted by: mr_hymn_ - Wednesday, April 12, 2017 11:43:02 AM
So you just want something as insane as below? [img]http://i.imgur.com/QBGRm3D.png[/img] This is my last screenshots while trying to increase the camera height to the max to see how many units I could see them on screen and well crashes. [img]http://i.imgur.com/NL9MkDu.jpg[/img] If you want something insane like me then I have to say nothing much we can do. We're on a same boat and you can't do much stuff. However if I am playing this 7 vs 1 with a camera in close range. I can play without a problem (crash still occurs occasionally)

Posted by: mr_hymn_ - Wednesday, April 12, 2017 11:43:02 AM

So you just want something as insane as below? [img]http://i.imgur.com/QBGRm3D.png[/img] This is my last screenshots while trying to increase the camera height to the max to see how many units I could see them on screen and well crashes. [img]http://i.imgur.com/NL9MkDu.jpg[/img] If you want something insane like me then I have to say nothing much we can do. We're on a same boat and you can't do much stuff. However if I am playing this 7 vs 1 with a camera in close range. I can play without a problem (crash still occurs occasionally)

Posted by: Zatsupachi - Thursday, April 13, 2017 1:33:15 AM
I'm a simple man, I didn't bother making smart AI so I had mass production AI: GLA Cheap Units: http://www.moddb.com/mods/death-label/images/gla-base#imagebox Overlord Blob: http://www.moddb.com/mods/death-label/images/ai-overlord-blob#imagebox

Posted by: mr_hymn_ - Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:02:02 AM
[quote=Zatsupachi;144207]I'm a simple man, I didn't bother making smart AI so I had mass production AI: GLA Cheap Units: http://www.moddb.com/mods/death-label/images/gla-base#imagebox Overlord Blob: http://www.moddb.com/mods/death-label/images/ai-overlord-blob#imagebox[/quote] Same. I like mass production. I am reduced all prices to 0 and unit can be built within 1 sec.

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