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#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 3, 2003 2:05:30 PM(UTC)
Sagi
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Joined: 2/26/2003(UTC)
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Location: Israel

The chat that was at september the 3rd 2003, 2 PM PST, 5 PM EST and 10 PM GMT.

The whole chat whit Harvard Bonin:
(don't mind the time in the side, it's by my time, Israel GMT+2).


[23:51] *** Harvard[EA] (~monitor@7618ED2.A8F53077.D3FDAE5.IP) has joined channel #cnccomevents
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[23:54] [Harvard[EA]] Hi All
[23:54] [Harvard[EA]] Just got here
[23:54] [Sagi[CNCGW]] hi
[23:54] [moe] right click the channel tab, goto events
[23:54] [moe] hey Harvard
[23:54] [Harvard[EA]] Thanks to everyone for coming...except for dam0kles :)
[23:54] [Cabal] Hi Harvard. Rite... lets tell you all how this chat will work
[23:54] [moe] and on the drop down boxes, click hide for the ones you want to hide.. simple:)
[23:54] [Harvard[EA]] what's up?
[23:55] [Malc] hey Harv
[23:55] [Harvard[EA]] I hope everyone is well
[23:55] [Malc] we should be getting going as soon as Cabal is ready
[23:55] [Cabal] People - Please pm me any questions you want to ask harvard. I will then post them into the chat window.
[23:55] [Harvard[EA]] Man, that guy is always late! :)
[23:55] [Cabal] hey thanks harv
[23:55] [Harvard[EA]] you are welcome
[23:55] [Malc] hehe
[23:56] [Cabal] so... ready at your end?
[23:56] [Harvard[EA]] yup
[23:56] [Harvard[EA]] be nice!
[23:56] [Malc] one quick question befor we start Harv...
[23:56] [Harvard[EA]] sure
[23:56] [Malc] why are there zero hour patchs on the EA ftp?
[23:56] [Harvard[EA]] we are testing
[23:56] [Harvard[EA]] they will do nothing but break Generals so don't try it!
[23:56] [Malc] lol
[23:56] [Harvard[EA]] We are simply testing our patch process
[23:57] [Malc] oh ok
[23:57] [Cabal] ready for the first question harv?
[23:57] [Harvard[EA]] sure
[23:57] [Cabal] [Tekbombx] Any plan to fully fix alt + f4?
[23:57] [Harvard[EA]] is that the first one?
[23:57] [Cabal] well apart from malcs
[23:58] [Malc] =)
[23:58] [Harvard[EA]] Yes, fixed in ZH
[23:58] [Harvard[EA]] We are evaluating 1.7 for Generals
[23:58] [Cabal] Hi simon
[23:58] [SiBull] hi
[23:58] [Harvard[EA]] In fact, has anyone noticed if the disconnects work right now in Generals?
[23:58] [Harvard[EA]] We made a change on the server side which likely fixed disconnecting accuracy
[23:59] [Cabal] btw harvard - let me know when you are ready for the next question
[23:59] [Harvard[EA]] next
[23:59] [Cabal] [Koen] Harvard, does Zero Hour use the same code as Generals? That means, will there be an update for Generals as well with the improved netcode? eg, does it have the same EXE? Or will you have to play Zero Hour to get the new stuff?
[23:59] [Harvard[EA]] ZH is a different exe
[23:59] *** MMurphy (~cnccom@39343FD5.A3119C81.E374136.IP) has joined channel #cnccomevents
[00:00] [Harvard[EA]] However, we are looking at which fixes to retro into Generals
[00:00] [Harvard[EA]] Yes, you need to buy - but if you're here is that still a question?
[00:00] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:00] [Cabal] [MadIvan[DHS]] MOD RELATED: What happened to the Dev Site?Will it do something? ((Link: http://gendev.ea.com)http://gendev.ea.com)
[00:00] [Harvard[EA]] seems like the dev site isn't alive
[00:01] [Harvard[EA]] We always have high hopes and this one didn't make the cut
[00:01] [Cabal] dont forget harv - you guys can always use cnccom - we wont die :)
[00:01] [Harvard[EA]] Maybe next time as its a good idea
[00:01] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:01] [Cabal] [Tesla7zap] Will Zero Hour be released as console games in the future?
[00:02] [Harvard[EA]] Not sure...never know. I suspect when/if C&C rears its head in the console world it won't specifically be ZH
[00:02] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:02] [Cabal] [DeeZire] my Q: will a patch for Generals be necessary before ZH can be installed, like with RA2 & YR?
[00:02] [Harvard[EA]] Hi D - how's it going?
[00:02] [Harvard[EA]] and "no" no patch required to play ZH
[00:03] [Harvard[EA]] ZH is a big patch by itself...a really big one
[00:03] [DeeZire] pretty cool, thanks Harv :)
[00:03] [Malc] see he did remember you :)
[00:03] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:03] [Cabal] (sorry mike - forgot about u - u can talk now)
[00:03] [Cabal] [Canadian_General[CNCCZ]] Do you have any firm date on which Zero Hour will go gold? And will there be different Box Art again?
[00:03] [Harvard[EA]] Yes, there will be different box art
[00:03] [Harvard[EA]] oh, you meant 3 different boxes
[00:04] [Cabal] yes
[00:04] [Cabal] i think he did
[00:04] [Harvard[EA]] no, just one box...has a big aircraft carrier getting slammed by a particle cannon
[00:04] [Malc] =)
[00:04] [Harvard[EA]] No date on Gold but it is reeeaaally close
[00:04] [Harvard[EA]] As you can see by my having the time to do this chat! :)
[00:04] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:04] [Cabal] [Edan] To Harvard: The Aurora Fuel air Bomber-- any more info on that? Will it be a generals point? Is it expensive? Does it have the same power as a regular fuel air bomb?
[00:04] [Harvard[EA]] no gen point, smaller FAB
[00:05] [Harvard[EA]] pretty effective though
[00:05] [Harvard[EA]] You guys are really going to like the various armies, I think
[00:05] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:05] [Cabal] [[GW]Blbpaws] You've already made a great start with the Zh review copies but can we expect anymore support for fansites and mods?
[00:05] [Harvard[EA]] Mike Murphy handles all that stuff. I have heard through the grapevine that this practice will continue. He's the guy though
[00:05] [Cabal] Mike... any comments
[00:06] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:06] [Cabal] [[NMS]NightWalker] would you please asked him, whether theres a problem combining generals german version with zh us version?
[00:06] [Harvard[EA]] that was a fun one
[00:06] [Harvard[EA]] We had to jump through some hoops to make all the German versions work with all the other versions
[00:07] [Harvard[EA]] However, we've been successful
[00:07] [Cabal] thats good news
[00:07] [MMurphy] We will be putting together fan site kits, more map making contests and a few other things
[00:07] [Harvard[EA]] We've tested extensively with all the versions on all supported operating systems, etc
[00:07] [Cabal] Thanks Mike
[00:07] [Harvard[EA]] So far, all is working well
[00:07] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:07] [Cabal] [Edan] How bout the worldbuilder? Anything significantly different or is it just new textures and objects?
[00:07] [MMurphy] As soon as I'm able to, I'll be adding fan site links to the site as well
[00:08] [Harvard[EA]] its been cleaned up a bit, organized some more, etc
[00:08] [MMurphy] the official site that is :-)
[00:08] [Malc] mod support?
[00:08] [Harvard[EA]] there are a lot of new objects to play with
[00:08] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:08] [Cabal] [Thyhammerr[RenGen]] will you please write a book on your life in EAP ?
[00:08] [Harvard[EA]] no
[00:08] [Harvard[EA]] that would be a boring tale! :)
[00:08] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:08] [Cabal] maybe mike can answer the next one...
[00:08] [Cabal] [AJ] when will the worthy sites know if they have won a review copy? or if they havent won a copy?
[00:09] [Harvard[EA]] when do all the hard questions start? :)
[00:09] [SiBull[EA]] now!
[00:09] [Malc] probably when we hit 100 people
[00:09] [MMurphy] I have a ton of submissions I have to go through - I'll do that next week
[00:09] [Malc] upto 99 so far
[00:09] [SiBull[EA]] where is my safecast build?
[00:09] [Harvard[EA]] heh Mr. Bull has been banned!
[00:09] [MMurphy] I'll contact those of you who will be receiving a copy
[00:09] [Harvard[EA]] working on it
[00:10] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:10] [Cabal] [Jeremy] when are we going to find out what the "July Announcement" is?
[00:10] [Harvard[EA]] heh...I think that was ZH
[00:10] [Malc] when EA get a Calender
[00:10] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:10] [Cabal] [wkfal] Harvard, will this be the only expansion pack for generals or is there a chance of another one planned?
[00:11] [Harvard[EA]] It will all depend on how Zh does. We expect it to do well but we're in the "wait and see" mode
[00:11] [Harvard[EA]] Hi Thilo
[00:11] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:11] [Cabal] [Bomer] it is said the generals system was removed from generals because the balance couldnt be got right how was this fixed?
[00:11] [Harvard[EA]] What system are you referring to?
[00:12] [Harvard[EA]] The Generals points was never removed at any time, if that's what you mean
[00:12] [Cabal] [Bomer] with 3 unique generals per side
[00:12] [Harvard[EA]] oh, that
[00:12] [Harvard[EA]] nah, we felt that the sides were diluted so we combined all the powers
[00:12] [Harvard[EA]] Wow, I forgot all about that!
[00:12] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:12] [Cabal] hehehe you're slacking :)
[00:12] [Cabal] [Ash] With the lack of any public testing as seen with Generals, how have you ensured as few bugs as possible make it into the release? The recent patch had a oversight in one "fix", for example - how have you learned from that?
[00:12] [Harvard[EA]] yup
[00:13] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:13] [Cabal] did u answer ash's one??
[00:13] [Harvard[EA]] what's that?
[00:13] [Cabal] [Ash] With the lack of any public testing as seen with Generals, how have you ensured as few bugs as possible make it into the release? The recent patch had a oversight in one "fix", for example - how have you learned from that?
[00:13] [Harvard[EA]] Thanks for the question, I think
[00:14] [Harvard[EA]] We are testing as we always do. All looks well.
[00:14] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:14] [Cabal] [MadIvan[DragonhordeStudios]] GAME RELATED: What Happened to the Ladder Kit?Will it ever get released/made?
[00:14] [Harvard[EA]] I was wondering when that would come up
[00:14] [Harvard[EA]] I am actually working hard on this right now
[00:14] [DeeZire] lol
[00:14] [Cabal] so is malard
[00:14] [Harvard[EA]] We are doing a couple things but I'll tell you how it will work
[00:15] [Harvard[EA]] Fansites are really the ones very interested in this
[00:15] [Harvard[EA]] We will have a kit that we will send to the sites (along with a legal doc).
[00:15] [Harvard[EA]] They will sign the legal doc and then tell us what "rules" they want for their ladder.
[00:15] [Harvard[EA]] Actually they'll send us back the config file
[00:16] [Harvard[EA]] This will allow the game results to be sent automatically to the ladder on the site.
[00:16] [Harvard[EA]] The ladder will be selectable from QuickMatch like the others
[00:16] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:16] [Cabal] [[GW]Blbpaws] are you doing anything that will enhance online play- meaning you can play with a dialup modem?
[00:16] [Harvard[EA]] you can already
[00:16] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:16] [Cabal] [MadIvan[DragonhordeStudios]] MOD RELATED: Will there be any residual code/unused code from beta stages of Zero Hour that modders will use to their advantege (example is the Defector code still present in Generals)
[00:17] [Harvard[EA]] hah...the modders are fantastic and looking under all the rugs
[00:17] [DeeZire] heh
[00:17] [Harvard[EA]] I doubt ZH has too many as its an expansion.
[00:17] [Harvard[EA]] I wouldn't be surprised if they dig some stuff up though
[00:17] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:17] [Cabal] [Thyhammerr[RenGen]] you ve said tht u have made changes in AI ? How Tough is the new AI will be ? better then RVMECH's Almost human AI ?
[00:17] [Harvard[EA]] I wouldn't say its near human...but it certainly plays more like one
[00:18] [Harvard[EA]] Skirmish in Generals was ok but not where we wanted it to be
[00:18] [Harvard[EA]] This time around I think everyone will like it much better
[00:18] [Harvard[EA]] We've even got a battlehonor for if you beat all maps with the hardest army and maximum AI opponents
[00:18] [Harvard[EA]] Good luck
[00:18] [Malc] have u done this yet Harv?
[00:18] [Harvard[EA]] No one here can beat more than 3
[00:19] [Harvard[EA]] Anyway, its pretty cool...much more fun
[00:19] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:19] [Cabal] [Tekbombx] What are your plans for fixing the maphack that currently works online for patch 1.6?
[00:19] [Harvard[EA]] ZH hasthe fix already...and not just because its a different exe
[00:19] [Harvard[EA]] We're reviewing 1.7 right now and this is at the top of the list
[00:20] [Harvard[EA]] Unfortunately, these are an arms race. A new one will come down the road and we'll have to address that too
[00:20] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:20] [Cabal] [DeeZire] what weve seen of the new missions looks fantastic, real cinematic feel - is the 'news broadcast' idea instead of briefings a throwback to the original C&C?
[00:20] [Harvard[EA]] A little bit
[00:20] [Harvard[EA]] We wanted to incorporate story without giving up the cool movie like cut scenes with the in game assets.
[00:21] [DeeZire] cool! *likes to feel like hes in the movies* :D
[00:21] [Harvard[EA]] If we settled on tanks that sat and talked to each other then we might have done it in the missions themselves
[00:21] [Harvard[EA]] That didn't seem right so we went with the news casters
[00:21] [Harvard[EA]] They even talk via video phone! heh
[00:21] [Cabal] cool
[00:21] [Malc] what news networks are present?
[00:21] [Malc] or just phony ones
[00:22] [Harvard[EA]] I wouldn't say Zero Hour has the deepest story but its better than than Generals
[00:22] [Harvard[EA]] they are fake
[00:22] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:22] [Cabal] [Blackshark] will ZH support better options for modder like easier creating/importing new units especialy humanoids
[00:23] [Harvard[EA]] the fundamental tech hasn't changed so I doubt it. We didn't focus on that part
[00:23] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:23] [Cabal] [Uma1R12] will u be monitoring cheaters on the game ?
[00:23] [Harvard[EA]] we'll have the monitors in the first couple weeks answering questions, etc...like we did for Generals
[00:23] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:24] [Cabal] Question from me.... why not have a sysop program with webbies like RA2 did?
[00:24] [Harvard[EA]] that is under consideration right now
[00:24] [Harvard[EA]] Its more due to time and priorities
[00:24] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:24] [Cabal] that worked - there were always a few of us in there
[00:24] [Cabal] [AJ] the June announcement was Zero Hour, but we still have heard nothing about the July announcement...do you know what it is the Harvard?
[00:24] [Harvard[EA]] I don't know...ZH was the big announcement
[00:24] [Malc] IE second anouncement
[00:24] [Harvard[EA]] June and July were the same
[00:25] [Cabal] hehehehe
[00:25] [Malc] someone said there would be 2
[00:25] [Harvard[EA]] You guys have memories like Elephants
[00:25] [Cabal] that was Lou i think
[00:25] [Harvard[EA]] Go out! Get some sunshine! :)
[00:25] [Cabal] lol
[00:25] [dam0kles[CT]] lol
[00:25] [Malc] lol
[00:25] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:25] [Cabal] [Antonescu] when 1.7 will be out?
[00:25] [Harvard[EA]] finally
[00:25] [Harvard[EA]] ok
[00:25] [Cabal] you knew it would come
[00:26] [Harvard[EA]] We are evaluating which ZH things to retro back to generals
[00:26] [Harvard[EA]] Obvious things like the map reveal cheat, tracking stats properly, some balance items, etc
[00:26] [Harvard[EA]] We
[00:26] [Harvard[EA]] We're deciding what's in it right now
[00:27] [Harvard[EA]] So far, no date but the ideal would to release around ZH release...however don't count on that
[00:27] [Harvard[EA]] When we get more specifics on that I'll post to the forums
[00:27] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:27] [Cabal] Message to everybody : We have a lot of questions atm... so if you dont have your question asked dont keep sending it to me - i will get to it if we have time
[00:27] [Cabal] [Bomer] Ea promised 1 and half years of support for generals will this never ammount to more than patchs ie will we get more maps , better worldbuilder ect ?
[00:28] [Harvard[EA]] We've released 6 patches already, some with features
[00:28] [Malc] I think a lot of people are concerned as the world builder won't support AI scripting for new sides
[00:28] [Harvard[EA]] We're sorry this isn't enough for you but we're still working hard
[00:28] [Harvard[EA]] net
[00:28] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:28] [Cabal] [Koen] Are there any Easter Eggs in ZH? Like the Ants maybe?
[00:28] [DeeZire] it does already, it just takes some time
[00:29] [Harvard[EA]] there is one....but its not ants...its a Boss General
[00:29] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:29] [Cabal] [Jeremy] Other than Zero Hour, are there any other future C&C games in the works?
[00:29] [Cabal] (another predictable question... hehehe)
[00:30] [Harvard[EA]] ok, I'm quitting EA today so I'm going to spill the beans...
[00:30] [Harvard[EA]] Here comes the big news...
[00:30] [Harvard[EA]] They are going to be so mad...
[00:30] [Harvard[EA]] I don't know
[00:30] [Harvard[EA]] :)
[00:30] [MMurphy] :-)
[00:30] [Cabal] hehehe i like it
[00:30] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:30] [DeeZire] lol
[00:30] [Cabal] [Martinator] The GLA hijacker isn't very effectively... so some guys from the offical German EA C&C Generals board had a great idea: The GBA hijacker lose his invisible skill but he get a new skill... he can hide as enemy infantery like the bomb truck... what do you think about that? I love this idea :D
[00:30] [DeeZire] nice idea...
[00:30] [Harvard[EA]] he is in ZH
[00:31] [Harvard[EA]] For the Camo General he is stealth all the time
[00:31] [Harvard[EA]] Also, his "guard" makes him much better
[00:31] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:31] [Cabal] [Ash] If you're testing "as you always do" how do you hope to avoid history repeating itself? I don't mean to be rude here, but there's been enough evidence since February to show that something just isn't working.
[00:31] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:31] [Harvard[EA]] and you are rude
[00:31] [Cabal] [Ubertek] For Harvard: About the Battle Honors, I heard there will be a lot more for all kinds of stuff, which you can collect to better show your playing style, as well as a kind of reporter at the end of the match. Can you elaborate some more on that?
[00:32] [Harvard[EA]] yes, there are some more but not in the way you mention
[00:32] [Harvard[EA]] You get one for beating maximum AI opponents in Skirmish (as mentioned before)
[00:32] [Harvard[EA]] Also, you get one for beating all the general types in online
[00:33] [Harvard[EA]] Also one for beating the Generals Challenge
[00:33] [Harvard[EA]] They're pretty cool...give you a goal...that sort of thing
[00:33] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:33] [Cabal] [[GW]Blbpaws] do you need a faster computer for ZH then Generals?
[00:33] [Harvard[EA]] And you get one for winning 10,000 net games!
[00:33] [Harvard[EA]] And in Skrimish.
[00:33] [Malc] hmm...
[00:33] [Harvard[EA]] Who's up for it? :)
[00:34] [Harvard[EA]] Zh has the same specs as Generals.
[00:34] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:34] [Cabal] [Undetected] what will the weather look like and will it go live .. like couds and falling rain..
[00:34] [Harvard[EA]] There is snow and rain in a few maps. The rain really enhances the atmosphere
[00:34] [Harvard[EA]] looks pretty cool
[00:34] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:34] [Cabal] [Ranmaz] To Harv: Will the network coding be tweaked in zero hour? I notice that when I play on my lan with the network feature (via direct connect or lobby) that the game speed is 1/3 the speed of a solo skirmish. Is this a gamespeed option flaw or is it the networking code (all computers meet the recommended requirements, not only minimum)?
[00:35] [Harvard[EA]] No flaw
[00:35] [Harvard[EA]] Generals will play as slow as the slowest computer in online play
[00:35] [Harvard[EA]] Depends on the specs of the machines
[00:35] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:35] [Cabal] [SniperGimp] recent news states the new Generals Trailer from Gamespot has questionable material in it offensive to the Chinese (The Symbols and Text). Your Thoughts?
[00:36] [Harvard[EA]] Hmmm...I've not heard that but I'll look into it.
[00:36] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:36] [Cabal] [Prince_Ali] Where do you see the cnc community (not the site, the community as a whole) going in the near future? Distant future?
[00:37] [Harvard[EA]] I hope that Mr. Murphy will really take community support to the next level.
[00:37] [Harvard[EA]] I know the stuff he's planning and I also know he's dedicated to it.
[00:37] [Cabal] Mike - any comments on what u have planned?
[00:37] [Harvard[EA]] As time goes forward Mike will become more key to the community and the generals site will also develop further.
[00:37] [Harvard[EA]] The new site is really just a piece of the puzzle...and its not done.
[00:37] [MMurphy] I'm working with our web team to get the site 100%.
[00:38] [Harvard[EA]] Mike, do you want to add something here?
[00:38] [MMurphy] From there there's no end to what we can do with the community
[00:38] [Harvard[EA]] What upcoming things do you have slated Mike?
[00:39] [Harvard[EA]] Mike, you still there?
[00:39] [MMurphy] we'll be posting a weekly community message from the whole team, keeping people updated on the franchise
[00:39] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:39] [MMurphy] I'll be drafting the next map making contest - multiplayer
[00:39] [Cabal] [Dante] What about getting .w3d tools for generals, say a gmax game kit, or possibly even the 3ds plugins for more mod support?
[00:40] [Harvard[EA]] yay!
[00:40] [Harvard[EA]] can I submit a map?!!!
[00:40] [Cabal] that would be cool
[00:40] [Malc] Have you made maps Harv?
[00:40] [MMurphy] ya, but you can't win any prizes :-)
[00:40] [Harvard[EA]] heh, my original maps were not so great...but I've gotten better!
[00:41] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:41] [Cabal] [Epiphenom] A question for Harvard ==] Of all the new units, which do you enjoy the most and why?
[00:41] [Harvard[EA]] oh, the mod support
[00:41] [Harvard[EA]] I will talk with Mike about this sort of thing. Good thoughts.
[00:41] [Malc] cough* ai scripter which supports new units
[00:41] [Harvard[EA]] I really love playing the GLA
[00:42] [Harvard[EA]] now with all the new toys they are even more sneaky
[00:42] [Harvard[EA]] My favorite new General is Prince Kassad
[00:42] [Harvard[EA]] He's the Camo General...mostly he's invisible all the time
[00:42] [Harvard[EA]] Good fun!
[00:43] [Cabal] sounds like fun
[00:43] [Harvard[EA]] My new favorite unit has to be the ECM Tank for China
[00:43] [Harvard[EA]] Missiles just get all wonky when he
[00:43] [Harvard[EA]] 's in the mix
[00:43] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:43] [Cabal] [Tekbombx] what are your plans for older c&c games?
[00:43] [Harvard[EA]] I personally am not involved with the older ones at this time
[00:44] [Harvard[EA]] I'm pretty much always concentrating on making the here and now better
[00:44] [Harvard[EA]] Mike might be able to answer questions about them though
[00:44] [Cabal] do you think something should be done with the older C&C games?
[00:45] [MMurphy] Actually, I'm in the same boat as Harvard is with the older titles.
[00:45] [Harvard[EA]] yes, I think they deserve attention but they need to be weighted against present concerns
[00:45] [Malc] what about remaking games in SAGE?
[00:45] [MMurphy] It's sad, but this is a business that moves forward way to fast
[00:45] [Harvard[EA]] I love RA2 a ton...I would live in that universe forever if I had a choice
[00:45] [Cabal] me too harvard
[00:45] [Cabal] :)
[00:45] [MMurphy] yes, all the time
[00:46] [Harvard[EA]] Maybe sometime...Sage is very powerful and realizing the older titles might be fun
[00:46] [Malc] =)
[00:46] [Harvard[EA]] i suspect we'll concentrate on progressing the various series though
[00:46] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:46] [Cabal] [MaFiSoft] What about official mappacks like in RA2/YR?
[00:46] [Harvard[EA]] right now generals doesn't support actual map packs... which is annoying to me
[00:47] [Harvard[EA]] I think what we will do is release maps for download or just patch them in
[00:47] [Harvard[EA]] Since we've been on ZH most of the maps go to this cause.
[00:47] [Harvard[EA]] Our designers are working on some now that should be for post launch.
[00:47] [Malc] How man new maps are in Zero Hour?
[00:47] [Malc] many*
[00:48] [Harvard[EA]] One is a replica of North America!
[00:48] [Cabal] cool
[00:48] [Harvard[EA]] Now you can have the much anticapated "US vs Canada" match! :)
[00:48] [Malc] hehe
[00:48] [Harvard[EA]] PS. What was offensive in the movie - as mentioned previously? I'm checking
[00:49] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:49] [Cabal] :)
[00:49] [Cabal] [Faust2001] Will WIN/losses/DCs be reset?
[00:49] [Harvard[EA]] no plans to reset
[00:49] [Harvard[EA]] though ZH will be new
[00:49] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:49] [Cabal] [[GW]Blbpaws] [[GW]Blbpaws] do you feel ZH will be the best CnC yet? Do you feel that you accomplish the unoffical goal of getting better with every game, not just graphics or gameplay but fan support and everything...?
[00:50] [Harvard[EA]] I think that ZH is better than Generals.
[00:50] [Harvard[EA]] I think that its hard to compare between various C&Cs too
[00:50] [Cabal] i can hear 106 people sayinG "YES!!! Thanks Harvard!" now
[00:50] [Harvard[EA]] Hopefully we'll keep getting better but we know we have a long way to go to
[00:51] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:51] [Cabal] [Lyx0r] Have you considered making some kind of lag detection in Zero Hour so players are not forced to play them, or do you think the 25-sec-rule is good enough even though ppl use it to play only vs newbies to bump their stats etc.?
[00:51] [Harvard[EA]] nah...we'
[00:51] [Harvard[EA]] we're happy with the 25 second rule
[00:52] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:52] [Cabal] [Uma1R12] will u be adding linux support ? coz some of the Geeks want to play it on their PCs too ?
[00:52] [Harvard[EA]] No
[00:52] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:52] [Cabal] aaargh you're getting too quick for me
[00:52] [Harvard[EA]] heh
[00:52] [Cabal] [Myla[IMPERIUM-WW]] Will there be an option in the skirmich game "no superweapons" like in the Ra2/YR ?
[00:53] [Harvard[EA]] There is a "limit superweapons" option. Turning them off would screw up the balace. You can make "1" or "as many as you like"
[00:54] [Harvard[EA]] there is also a limit armies toggle that forces players to use only the US, China or GLA main armies
[00:54] [Harvard[EA]] Also, Unofficial Maps will never count for stats games
[00:54] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:54] [Cabal] quick question from me - what time are you here until harvard?? I dont think we actually decided :)
[00:54] [Malc] lol
[00:54] [Harvard[EA]] about 3 mins :)
[00:54] [Cabal] :S
[00:54] [dam0kles[CT]] dont ask, keep em working :)
[00:54] [Harvard[EA]] That will make it an hour
[00:55] [Cabal] [Jeremy] What is a typical day working at EA like in relation to working on Zero Hour?
[00:55] [Harvard[EA]] Its been a lot of fun though
[00:55] [Cabal] ok... hows 3 more questions????
[00:55] [Harvard[EA]] I've been trying to keep my answers short so as many questions as possible can get through
[00:55] [Harvard[EA]] ok
[00:55] [Cabal] [Jeremy] What is a typical day working at EA like in relation to working on Zero Hour?
[00:55] [Harvard[EA]] Heh
[00:55] [Harvard[EA]] Lately? 15 hours, 7 days a week.
[00:56] [Harvard[EA]] High intensity, lots of fun and very rewarding
[00:56] [Harvard[EA]] Plus, we're making games! Woot! :)
[00:56] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:56] [Cabal] hehehe id like to see half of these people work that long and still have time for the fans :)
[00:56] [Cabal] [moe] [KotPaine] Will we ever see another FPS title in the C&C genre? Personally I love Renegade, and I think I think many fans clamor for another FPS...
[00:56] [Harvard[EA]] yeah, what he said!
[00:56] [Harvard[EA]] Maybe, not plans now that I'm aware of. I think its important for us to remember the heart and soul of C&C is in the RTS world
[00:56] [MMurphy] I gotta hit it guys, thanks for the opportunity
[00:57] [Harvard[EA]] Let's make that great and go from there
[00:57] [Malc] cya Mike
[00:57] [DeeZire] thanks Mike
[00:57] [Harvard[EA]] later Mike
[00:57] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:57] [Malc] mike that bribe for the review copy is on its way ;)
[00:57] [Cabal] [wkfal] From what you state above, does that mean there is a 10th general that we won't find out about until after release?
[00:57] [Malc] wired over last night
[00:57] [Harvard[EA]] There is but she's not playable
[00:57] [Cabal] wkfal seemed desperate for that question so i had to ask :)
[00:57] [Harvard[EA]] cool
[00:57] [Harvard[EA]] next
[00:58] [Harvard[EA]] last one?
[00:58] [Cabal] question from me... in the last chat you said you may be over in europe promoting generals in the future. any update?
[00:58] [Harvard[EA]] End on a high note!
[00:58] [DeeZire] quick q, will there be more info e,g on GameSpy before release?
[00:58] [Malc] ie General profiles
[00:58] [Harvard[EA]] Apparently Simon and Pete don't want to see me anymore!
[00:58] [dam0kles[CT]] thats not true!
[00:58] [dam0kles[CT]] we love u :)
[00:58] [Harvard[EA]] Last time I was there I did a number on them
[00:58] [Cabal] What did you do?
[00:58] [Harvard[EA]] They can't hang with the big boys :)
[00:59] [Harvard[EA]] Amyway, I'm sure I will dowm the line
[00:59] [Harvard[EA]] Someday, HBOMB will return!
[00:59] [dam0kles[CT]] ^^
[00:59] [Harvard[EA]] Maybe sooner than they think
[00:59] [Cabal] good good.... cos i still havent had a chance to say hi to you - u keep avoiding me
[00:59] [DeeZire] hehe
[00:59] [Harvard[EA]] that it?
[00:59] [dam0kles[CT]] *confused*
[00:59] [Harvard[EA]] Heh hi Cabal
[00:59] [Cabal] i mean in person :)
[00:59] [Harvard[EA]] ok, gotta go!
[01:00] [Malc] what happened to the last question?
[01:00] [Harvard[EA]] thanks a lot to everyone
[01:00] [Harvard[EA]] Its been fun and I hope informative
[01:00] [Cabal] thanks a lot harvard for attending the chat
[01:00] [DeeZire] thanks Harv
[01:00] [Harvard[EA]] oh, one more?
[01:00] [Malc] cya Harv =)
[01:00] [Cabal] did you want one more?
[01:00] [Harvard[EA]] sure
[01:00] [Harvard[EA]] bring it on
[01:00] [Cabal] cypher is demanding it
[01:00] [Cabal] [Cypher] How is that list of World Builder updates/upgrades/fixes you asked me to compile for you?
[01:01] [Harvard[EA]] We're not getting to all of them but I hope some. the list isn't in front of me though
[01:01] [Malc] I hope your getting to the critical ones like crashes when mods are used
[01:01] [Harvard[EA]] We looked at a ton of feedback on the boards, the "petitions" (which are not much of an influence, by the way)
[01:02] [Cabal] petitions never are
[01:02] [DeeZire] Wb works fine woth mods, takes a lot of work but its ok
[01:02] [Harvard[EA]] The best lists I've seen are bullet points and priorities
[01:02] [Harvard[EA]] Everyone should have a base assumption that we are trying to make the game better
[01:02] [Malc] Deezire not when your adding 25 new units
[01:02] [Cabal] lol AJ wants you to add a KFC stall into ZH :)
[01:02] [DeeZire] shouldnt really matter, but Ill help you out if I can
[01:03] [Harvard[EA]] We DO want to fix these thing but we need to prioritize...and frankly, a lot of the suggestions are so minor they're hardly worth reading.
[01:03] [Harvard[EA]] However, some are very valuable and we appreciate the feedback.
[01:03] [Harvard[EA]] ok, that was it
[01:03] [DeeZire] can see already a lot of user thought is in ZH
[01:03] [Harvard[EA]] Thanks a lot everyone
[01:03] [Cabal] yep. thanks a lot harvard
[01:03] [dam0kles[CT]] thank u!
[01:03] [Harvard[EA]] Let's do this again soon. Maybe October?
[01:03] [Cabal] sorry for people if i didnt ask your question
[01:03] [Harvard[EA]] I'm up for it
[01:03] [Cabal] i had a lot to ask
[01:04] [dam0kles[CT]] sounds good
[01:04] [Harvard[EA]] Thanks again. You'
[01:04] [Cabal] sure... make it mid october - i need time to settle into university
[01:04] [dam0kles[CT]] u r welcome!
[01:04] [Harvard[EA]] You're passion is appreciated
[01:04] [Malc] good to have you harv
[01:04] [Cabal] what about my passion?
[01:04] [Malc] hope we didn't grill u to much
[01:04] [Harvard[EA]] later everybody!
[01:04] [Cabal] cya
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 3, 2003 4:37:21 PM(UTC)
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Yay! It's a summary of this long chat! You can visit the nicer and formatted version at:
http://www.doverinteractive.com/chat.htm



Chat with Harvard Bonin – 2 PM Pacific, 5 PM Eastern



Summary by Edan



Support & Online Play

- ALT-F4 will be “fixed” in Zero Hour

- No patch for Generals necessary before Zero Hour is installed

- German versions will work with other versions of ZH

- Ladder Kits for each fansite
<Harvard[EA]>; We will have a kit that we will send to the sites (along with a legal doc).
<Harvard[EA]>; They will sign the legal doc and then tell us what "rules" they want for their ladder.
<Harvard[EA]>; Actually they'll send us back the config file
<Harvard[EA]>; This will allow the game results to be sent automatically to the ladder on the site.
<Harvard[EA]>; The ladder will be selectable from QuickMatch like the others

- Zero Hour and Patch 1.7 for Generals will fix the MapHack

- New Generals Site not done yet
<Harvard[EA]>; As time goes forward Mike will become more key to the community and the generals site will also develop further.
<Harvard[EA]>; The new site is really just a piece of the puzzle...and its not done.
<MMurphy> I'm working with our web team to get the site 100%.

- Mike Murphy is going to make a multiplayer map-making contest

- Win/Losses/DCs will NOT be reset in ZH

- Online Games allow Host to customize superweapon count to “none”, “1”, or “as many as you like” and turn off the Generals mode and play just plain USA, China, and GLA

- Unofficial Maps won’t count in Stats





In Game

- Aurora doesn’t require generals point, and it’s damage will be smaller than a current 5-star fuel air bomb

- AI in ZH is improved compared to Generals
<Harvard[EA]>; I wouldn't say its near human...but it certainly plays more like one
<Harvard[EA]>; Skirmish in Generals was ok but not where we wanted it to be
<Harvard[EA]>; This time around I think everyone will like it much better

- New Battle Honors :

o Beating all Official Maps against the maximum amount of the most difficult AI opponents in Skirmish Mode

o Beating all Generals Types online

o Beating the Generals Challenge

- News Broadcasts during missions from fake television stations as story develops

- There will be a 10th General (“Boss General”), but will not be playable







Miscellaneous

- Only one art box
”no, just one box...has a big aircraft carrier getting slammed by a particle cannon”

- World builder will be “organized better” with the release of Zero Hour
<Harvard[EA]>; its been cleaned up a bit, organized some more, etc
<Harvard[EA]>; there are a lot of new objects to play with





Things that are Undecided

- Zero Hour for consoles.
“I suspect when/if C&C rears its head in the console world it won't specifically be ZH”

- When Zero Hour will go gold
“No date on Gold but it is reeeaaally close”

- Another Expansion Pack for Generals after ZH
“It will all depend on how Zh does. We expect it to do well but we're in the ‘wait and see’ mode”

- When Generals Patch 1.7 will come out
<Harvard[EA]>; So far, no date but the ideal would to release around ZH release...however don't count on that
<Harvard[EA]>; When we get more specifics on that I'll post to the forums

- Another CnC Game in the future
“I don't know”
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#3 Posted : Saturday, September 6, 2003 8:09:56 AM(UTC)
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this looks nice: [00:54] [Harvard[EA]] Also, Unofficial Maps will never count for stats games
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2003 3:37:47 AM(UTC)
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does this mean that you can´t do an unbalanced map and play it online?
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2003 3:58:38 AM(UTC)
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you can still play online whit unofficial maps but they wont count for a loss or win or dc.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, September 9, 2003 6:54:29 PM(UTC)
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looks good, WOW that was a long read. Thanks for postin all that though. Very informative.

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A koonamatata, what a wonderful phrase (don't ask me.) Zero Hour is going to be sweet, but don't get your hopes up that it will be perfect ;)
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did any of you guys attaend the chat?
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#9 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2003 3:18:48 PM(UTC)
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yep. My name is "Edan". You'll see I asked a couple questions.
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#10 Posted : Saturday, September 13, 2003 6:12:13 PM(UTC)
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Heck yeah those cheap *censored* created maps won't work for a count on your rank online. It really sucks because thats where most of the games don't work or the most disconnects come from and people will be okay with it because of the new official maps that come with ZH rock.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, September 18, 2003 7:44:17 AM(UTC)
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i hope the new maps rock. maybe they all suck.
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They will rock, cause there will be lots of cool peramids and stuff like that... so yeah..

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#13 Posted : Friday, September 19, 2003 4:49:09 AM(UTC)
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peramids? egyptian ones or mayan ones? i hope both. but I've not seen lots of desert maps yet. i wonder if the new tech buildings will rock. what about the one that gives you tank reinforcements. would be fun to be air general and get tank reinforcements. lol.
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#14 Posted : Friday, September 19, 2003 6:12:40 AM(UTC)
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well be the air general and get paratroopers and tank reinforcements.
BTW where is all the screenshots or avatars of the new units? The game will arrive like in 4 days and you guys still have like half of the avatars left.
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What avatars are you talking about? the ZH ones? I will ask Mike to add them..

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#16 Posted : Friday, September 19, 2003 7:43:16 AM(UTC)
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Well if you haven´t noticed, I have been looking for new screenies every day, and watch the new units, well they haven´t been updating the ZH pages for very long from now. So i´m asking you guys, do the new unit images and avatars even exist??? I just thought the game was already ready.
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whats dis for/
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, December 3, 2003 12:30:55 AM(UTC)
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lol USA kick ass but then again so does every other dam general lol

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why is this topic still sticky?
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