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Poll Question : who is your favorite general?
Choice Votes Statistics
  General Townes (laser) US army
13
12 %
  General Alexander (super weapons) US marines
19
18 %
  General Granger (air force) US air force
16
15 %
  General Juhziz (explosives) GLA scorpion cell
9
8 %
  Prince Kassad (stealth) GLA cobra cell
9
8 %
  Dr.Thrax (toxins)
7
6 %
  General Tao (nuclear weapons) PLA branch
13
12 %
  General Kwai (tanks) PLA branch
7
6 %
  General Fai (infantry) PLA branch
12
11 %
  Total 105 100%
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#61 Posted : Monday, April 12, 2010 3:40:52 AM(UTC)
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Air General Because he gets promotion points from his promotions,
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#62 Posted : Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:12:46 PM(UTC)
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I'm surprised that the original generals aren't listed, and nobody has said they prefer one of them. There must be a reason why, so why does nobody like the basic generals?

I find the standard generals well balanced, and they give good games when you chose one and set the AI to play as another (even your own chosen country). However, I must admit that I never play as the Terrorists and don't play against them. I like knowing where the enemy might come from, not finding out by surprise.

Also, I don't play online for various reasons. I splay strictly against the AI.

I make my own maps. I find map making most relaxing and creatively challenging. You can spend an hour or a day or a week on one. If I spend a day on it and it turns out to be a great design, I'll tweak it, then detail it. If it doesn't, then I just don't play it, but keep it as a reminder of what I did wrong.

But, back to the original question. Why has nobody chosen the original generals? Are there weaknesses in them? I don't see any. I can beat most China factions with the original US army.

I've played as original US most, but also like original China vs China (same factions for both sides).

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#63 Posted : Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:26:34 PM(UTC)
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My pick's the GLA stealth and the Air Force
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#64 Posted : Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:27:52 PM(UTC)
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My pick's the GLA stealth and the Air Force
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#65 Posted : Sunday, January 23, 2011 1:09:21 PM(UTC)
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Mine's Kassad, though it never really gets me anywhere! Cool
Controversial statements are the ones that utimately need to be discussed.
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#66 Posted : Tuesday, February 1, 2011 5:50:53 AM(UTC)
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Best for me is lazer general, a bit vulnerable in the beggining of a battle but when ur base is done just build about 3 tanks and 1 avenger unit and, once unlocked, 1 pathfinder

laser tanks kill any other tank in the game (only can't kill overlord class), avenger kill air and if close can protect the tanks from missiles (suck as scorpion rocket) and pathfinder kill any infantry that comes

in that screenshot (my avatar) u can see some tanks killing nuke battemasters

Edited by user Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:24:21 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

"The Only Way To Have Peace is Prepare for War" <---I forgot who said this...

"Lasers make superior weapons!" <--- Townes
"Laser crusader ready for engagement" <--- Laser Crusader Tank
"Tactical lasers online" <--- Avenger Support Venhice
"Storm climbed mountain" <--- Pathfinder Elite Infantry
"Ready for covert mission" <--- Stealth Fighter Tactical Support
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#67 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 6:42:25 AM(UTC)
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I like inf gen because if u menage to get lategame with super hackers and mass charges u will kick ass
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#68 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 2:19:59 AM(UTC)
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just realized, this thread has to be possibly the longest EVER thread on Generals World. I remember this thread being in existence since at least 2005 or 2006. But somehow, this thread is shorter. The old members are just not here anymore.


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#69 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 11:23:19 AM(UTC)
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BR-Alexandre wrote:
Best for me is lazer general, a bit vulnerable in the beggining of a battle but when ur base is done just build about 3 tanks and 1 avenger unit and, once unlocked, 1 pathfinder

laser tanks kill any other tank in the game (only can't kill overlord class), avenger kill air and if close can protect the tanks from missiles (suck as scorpion rocket) and pathfinder kill any infantry that comes

in that screenshot (my avatar) u can see some tanks killing nuke battemasters



The main problem with this, is that by the time u have ur tank + avenger + sniper force, the other one (should he be Tao or vanilla, but most fearsome would be tao) will have A LOT OF FAST OVERLORDS + ECM tanks crushing ur force and ur base... furthermore, he can add a couple of BM's as car bombs.
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#70 Posted : Sunday, April 3, 2011 5:16:13 AM(UTC)
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not really blade, avenger no more need a strategy center and the first units i make (after the dozer, chinook and rangers) is a laser tank. yeah the pathfinder take a while but the others don't

BMs will not get even close to my tanks to suicide, about the ECM and Overlords....then depends of the size of both armies and tactics used during the combat. Also, if my enemy is GLA, the avenger kill scorpion rocket so laser don't die that easy.

Raptor or stealth figther air support can slo turn the tide of the batte (same way can the nuke migs if i'm out of avengers)

Matthijsownt wrote:
I like inf gen because if u menage to get lategame with super hackers and mass charges u will kick ass


Really? have you ever seen pathfinders in action? just 4 tanks and about 4-10 pathfinders kill an army of infantry, or see what happens with the infantry when you try defeat a few laser turrents

Edited by user Sunday, April 3, 2011 5:20:55 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

"The Only Way To Have Peace is Prepare for War" <---I forgot who said this...

"Lasers make superior weapons!" <--- Townes
"Laser crusader ready for engagement" <--- Laser Crusader Tank
"Tactical lasers online" <--- Avenger Support Venhice
"Storm climbed mountain" <--- Pathfinder Elite Infantry
"Ready for covert mission" <--- Stealth Fighter Tactical Support
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#71 Posted : Sunday, April 3, 2011 11:54:29 AM(UTC)
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None of that will ever work in a pro game.

For 1, if you manage to get laser turrets up around your base before they've completely destroyed you, you're beyond a pro. Then, dispite that miracle, they'll crush you with superweapons and a much larger economy.

For 2, laser tank + avenger + pathfinders are easily countered. They're weak to missile spamming (USA's specialty), Chinese artillery, tunnel networks, battlemasters (nuke or tank), overlords, ecm tanks, and many more.
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#72 Posted : Sunday, April 3, 2011 12:01:52 PM(UTC)
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1-i'm not a pro in that game, you can't call me even good. almost never build turrents when playing
2-how the missile guys kill the pathfinders? only China artillery, auroras and big armies kill that "squad", i've rushed lots of AIs and Players that way. Also guerrilha kill them too

EDIT: also i don't use just one tank and one avenger, its a group of 2-5 tanks per avenger and 1-4 snipers for escort. as you say, will need time

Edited by user Sunday, April 3, 2011 12:09:10 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

"The Only Way To Have Peace is Prepare for War" <---I forgot who said this...

"Lasers make superior weapons!" <--- Townes
"Laser crusader ready for engagement" <--- Laser Crusader Tank
"Tactical lasers online" <--- Avenger Support Venhice
"Storm climbed mountain" <--- Pathfinder Elite Infantry
"Ready for covert mission" <--- Stealth Fighter Tactical Support
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#73 Posted : Sunday, April 3, 2011 12:10:12 PM(UTC)
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it should be like this....
Edit: Posted image :D. see that i forgot sniper escort

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"The Only Way To Have Peace is Prepare for War" <---I forgot who said this...

"Lasers make superior weapons!" <--- Townes
"Laser crusader ready for engagement" <--- Laser Crusader Tank
"Tactical lasers online" <--- Avenger Support Venhice
"Storm climbed mountain" <--- Pathfinder Elite Infantry
"Ready for covert mission" <--- Stealth Fighter Tactical Support
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#74 Posted : Sunday, April 3, 2011 11:11:03 PM(UTC)
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Quote:
almost never build turrents when playing

Neither do pros. Turrets are useless. The only defences you'll ever see a pro use are tunnel networks because they heal and teleport troops, and emp patriots, which end up being in the enemy base and are not used for defence.

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how the missile guys kill the pathfinders?

They don't need to. They're in humvees, and the humvees deal with them. With your 3 avengers and 9 laser tanks, he has 5 humvees filled with missile defenders for the same cost. They can fire up to 25 missiles at once. Not only that, but they're much faster, and have more range, so they can run circles around you to get to a weak spot, all the while, you can't touch them.
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#75 Posted : Monday, April 4, 2011 6:27:25 AM(UTC)
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Well, alexandre, consider that USA have a very slow economy, so that they are weak on the beggining. With the money to purchase 4 LC + 1 AV (the minimun to stop 1 BM from suiciding, and they are fast) u can purchase a PC or a Nuke. Now with that very money, i can purchase 6 Nuke BM's and still have some to spare. With good micro, u will at least have a couple of BM's exploding near u, and the rest... well, u know the rest.

Besides, in late game, BM's be a lot and with nationalism bonus wich is going to give them the edge. Furthermore, i may not have so many BM's but a mix between BM's an Overlords. So overlords take the pounding (and hell, they are resistant) while nuke BM's fire so fast that u entire force will be cripled in a matter of seconds. Also consider the leftover radiation, the more shots, me more intense it will be. Needless to say about chinesse inferno's (just need 5 or 6 to FS ur tank's and deal them A LOT of dmg). At least, Tao has ECM tanks to protect their assets from Raptors and stealth fighter, how can townes defend himself from artillery?.

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#76 Posted : Tuesday, April 5, 2011 3:34:45 PM(UTC)
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Annihilationzh wrote:

Neither do pros. Turrets are useless. The only defences you'll ever see a pro use are tunnel networks because they heal and teleport troops, and emp patriots, which end up being in the enemy base and are not used for defence.

well, one thing i'm doing rigth

Annihilationzh wrote:

They don't need to. They're in humvees, and the humvees deal with them. With your 3 avengers and 9 laser tanks, he has 5 humvees filled with missile defenders for the same cost. They can fire up to 25 missiles at once. Not only that, but they're much faster, and have more range, so they can run circles around you to get to a weak spot, all the while, you can't touch them.

9 laser tanks are harder to kill than looks like. i know they are easy to defeat with that [annoying] humvee tactic but ppl like doing same with GLA buggy. i just push foward until they have nowhere to run. most tanks will be dead but if i manage to get 3 tanks in fire range they one-shot-kill a humvee. yeah i lose money, a LOT of money, but in late game its not a problem. Search and destroy battle plan in strategy center helps one hit these humvees so just a small mistake and i hit them

BladeLord wrote:
Well, alexandre, consider that USA have a very slow economy, so that they are weak on the beggining. With the money to purchase 4 LC + 1 AV (the minimun to stop 1 BM from suiciding, and they are fast) u can purchase a PC or a Nuke. Now with that very money, i can purchase 6 Nuke BM's and still have some to spare. With good micro, u will at least have a couple of BM's exploding near u, and the rest... well, u know the rest.


Nuke BMs are 100 cheaper but have far less health than laser tank, you may need 2 suicides or 1 suicide and 1 shooting to kill one of mine. Cost-effective but in a mass battle i win. also i may not build avenger if you're not using planes (neither rockets) or if i have low money or too few tanks i'll not build it.

BladeLord wrote:
Besides, in late game, BM's be a lot and with nationalism bonus wich is going to give them the edge. Furthermore, i may not have so many BM's but a mix between BM's an Overlords. So overlords take the pounding (and hell, they are resistant) while nuke BM's fire so fast that u entire force will be cripled in a matter of seconds. Also consider the leftover radiation, the more shots, me more intense it will be. Needless to say about chinesse inferno's (just need 5 or 6 to FS ur tank's and deal them A LOT of dmg). At least, Tao has ECM tanks to protect their assets from Raptors and stealth fighter, how can townes defend himself from artillery?.

a massive battle is hard to see who will win (probably you), i see your tactic is really good. to beat them i may just add a commanche or col.burton to my team to just move over and kill the nukes. also remove the pathfinders as i don't need them if you're not using infantry.
yeah i know, vulnerable to gatling tanks but you will have to be very good commander to plan and execute attacks that good. you would be a very good opponent blade (annihilationzh would probably annihilate me too lol)

EDIT: i think i said before, only units capable of killing my combination alone are nuke cannon, inferno cannons (if well used), auroras and alpha auroras. of course combos like these you posted are powerfull too so i don't know who would win

Edited by user Tuesday, April 5, 2011 3:37:12 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

"The Only Way To Have Peace is Prepare for War" <---I forgot who said this...

"Lasers make superior weapons!" <--- Townes
"Laser crusader ready for engagement" <--- Laser Crusader Tank
"Tactical lasers online" <--- Avenger Support Venhice
"Storm climbed mountain" <--- Pathfinder Elite Infantry
"Ready for covert mission" <--- Stealth Fighter Tactical Support
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#77 Posted : Wednesday, April 6, 2011 6:28:57 AM(UTC)
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U know, adding a comanche might be useful, but once the overlords got the Gat upg... well... the same for burton. Another option u can use, are ur very avengers (yes they themselves). The fact is that u gonna need some micro and GOOD formation, but u can target the overlords and BM's faster, compensating for the enemie's horde bonus. Just take care of those ECM's disabling ur tanks (they are priority targets, more than overlords and above anything else, a good micro player can ruin ur day with those, and they did it to me... :( ).
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#78 Posted : Wednesday, April 6, 2011 8:25:14 AM(UTC)
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BladeLord wrote:
U know, adding a comanche might be useful, but once the overlords got the Gat upg... well... the same for burton. Another option u can use, are ur very avengers (yes they themselves). The fact is that u gonna need some micro and GOOD formation, but u can target the overlords and BM's faster, compensating for the enemie's horde bonus. Just take care of those ECM's disabling ur tanks (they are priority targets, more than overlords and above anything else, a good micro player can ruin ur day with those, and they did it to me... :( ).


i have good formations (sometimes of course i make it wrong and if terrain don't help....) due to experience in game, and i see that search and destroy battle plan plus avenger laser (tag) attack speed bonus make my tanks better than tank general ones (even with AL). see that overlord tank lose some of hist cost-efficiency in a tank battle if you build a gatling cannon on it. Tank cheneral in challeges like use lots of ECMs, but you need a lot (3+) to make an efficient attack. What is a "micro"? microwave tank? ....and what is a "micro player"? someone who use ECM or microwave in tactical positions?
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"Lasers make superior weapons!" <--- Townes
"Laser crusader ready for engagement" <--- Laser Crusader Tank
"Tactical lasers online" <--- Avenger Support Venhice
"Storm climbed mountain" <--- Pathfinder Elite Infantry
"Ready for covert mission" <--- Stealth Fighter Tactical Support
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#79 Posted : Wednesday, April 6, 2011 8:29:19 AM(UTC)
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Micro (micro managing) is carefully moving units so that they do good damage without dying. Humvee's are the most famous units for micro, as they can completely avoid damage and still kill their opponents.
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#80 Posted : Thursday, April 7, 2011 12:25:14 PM(UTC)
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Actually, Tao's tanks are better than kwai's ones... His overlords move so fast, that they can even outrun crusaders, needless to say about BM's (denying SAD Strategy, if i were u, i'd surely go for bombardment instead). And trust me... the Gat UPG is the best thing an overlord may have built in. Why? Because it gives them super antiinfantry capability, as well as antiair. Furthermore, it gives it detection and spinin' the guns faster make more and more damage as times goes by (and with the resistance they got, they WILL SURELY have such time wich make them effective even against tanks). My usual Battleorder is 3 or 4 Gat overlords + 1 Prop behind (and some BM's to help clean the way, and infernos should i have the money).
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